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Post by bacon on Jan 3, 2006 21:33:18 GMT -5
Golly gee, I've been defeated. #49#
The Gaffer: You shouldn't listen to all you hear, Sandyman. There isn't no call to go talking of pushing and pulling. Boats are quite tricky enough for those that sit still without looking further for the cause of trouble. Anyway: there was this Mr. Frodo left an orphan and stranded, as you might say, among those queer Bucklanders, being brought up anyhow in Brandy Hall. A regular warren, by all accounts. Old Master Gorbadoc never had fewer than a couple of hundred relations in the place. Mr. Bilbo never did a kinder deed than when he brought the lad back to live among decent folk. But I reckon it was a nasty shock for those Sackville-Bagginses. They thought they were going to get Bag End, that time when he went off and was thought to be dead. And then he comes back and orders them off; and goes on living and living, and never looking a day older, bless him! And suddenly he produces an heir, and has all the papers made out proper. The Sackville-Bagginses won't see the inside of Bag End now, or it is to be hoped not.
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Post by bacon on Jan 3, 2006 21:25:36 GMT -5
LOL
Old Noakes: I've heard they went on the water after dinner in the moonlight and it was Drogo's weight as sunk the boat.
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Post by bacon on Jan 3, 2006 21:10:23 GMT -5
Yup. I got a short line. Several Voices: Drownded?
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Post by bacon on Jan 3, 2006 21:02:01 GMT -5
Daddy Twofoot: And no wonder they're queer if they live on the wrong side of the brandywine River, and right agin the Old Forest. That's a dark bad place, if half the tales be true.
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Post by bacon on Jan 3, 2006 20:58:12 GMT -5
A long while. But, fun to. Ham Gamgee, a.k.a. the Gaffer: A very nice well-spoken gentlehobbit is Mr. Bilbo, as I've always said.
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Post by bacon on Jan 3, 2006 20:26:30 GMT -5
In this game, go through the lines of dialogue in the LOTR Books, from FOTR to ROTK. Hobbit Villagers: It will have to be paid for. It isn't natural, and trouble will come of it!
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Post by bacon on Apr 30, 2006 17:26:14 GMT -5
Come here to discuss the last edition of J.K. Rowling's continuing epic: Harry Potter. Last I heard the last word in the novel was 'scar'.
And I think Harry's a Horcrux and is going to be dead by the end of the novel.
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Post by bacon on Sept 30, 2005 21:45:23 GMT -5
Interesting choice.
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Post by bacon on Sept 12, 2005 17:19:06 GMT -5
I definately prefer the Fellowship Theme, followed closely by the Ringwraith Theme, which is followed by the Rohan Theme.
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Post by bacon on Oct 2, 2005 9:07:56 GMT -5
Edited and I apoligize.
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Post by bacon on Oct 1, 2005 16:53:06 GMT -5
About war... didn't Tolkien think that the honor of war was falling because people were using machines to do it for them?
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Post by bacon on Oct 1, 2005 15:53:10 GMT -5
I am NOT a hippie.
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Post by bacon on Sept 30, 2005 21:37:23 GMT -5
I agree with Tolkien in the preservation of nature. One of the themes of LOTR is machinery replacing nature, seen in the Scouring of the Shire and in Saruman's 'mechanical' mind and destruction of the Ents. What do you think?
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Post by bacon on Oct 4, 2005 17:56:33 GMT -5
It must only stand out to idiots like me.
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Post by bacon on Sept 26, 2005 16:08:21 GMT -5
And, like I've said before... just didn't work.
Any other opinions?
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Post by bacon on Sept 20, 2005 21:30:52 GMT -5
I didn't think ALL the changes were bad, but I didn't like this one. It's just... eh.
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Post by bacon on Sept 19, 2005 18:19:27 GMT -5
Feel free to make your own thread for any questions. It could generate discussion. I've gone ahead though: ThreadOkay, back on topic. I think the whole elf thing came about as a reason to include Galadriel's 'midlogue'.
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Post by bacon on Sept 19, 2005 18:10:54 GMT -5
Half a month actually.
In the movie, the size of the army is reduced to 300 when in the book it was somewhere around two thousand.
I actually think it's better this way. Gives it a weird sense of depression.
Phillipa, I believe, said on the EE commentary that this was supposed to be a sign of unity of all ccreatures to fight against Middle-Earth.
It would have been great if they were informed of this at the very beginning of the movie instead of fifteen minutes before the battle.
Though I do think elves are cool they simply don't belong at Helm's Deep.
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Post by bacon on Sept 18, 2005 17:10:20 GMT -5
I despised this change in the movies pretty much more than anything else.
I'll present my 'arguement' when someone replies.
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Post by bacon on Sept 30, 2005 21:40:08 GMT -5
I agree. It was a nice little bit before the dark times of the movie.
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Post by bacon on Sept 23, 2005 17:31:17 GMT -5
CHAPTER FIVE: A Long Expected Party DISCUSSION: Sept. 23-26, 2005 DVD TIME INDEX: 19:56 – 25:31
Synopsis:
A firework explodes overhead as the camera reveals a grand party in the undertaking. There is merry dancing, partying, and clapping. Sam Gamgee is very nervous as he watches Rosie Cotton dance, and Frodo playfully (and forcefully) pushes him into the open, and Rosie and Sam dance. Gandalf unleashes yet another firework, while Bilbo tells a tale of his travels to hobbit children sitting nearby. Merry and Pippin sneak into Gandalf's fireworks tentas Gandalf unleashes another one, and steal a giant dragon firework. Bilbo greets more visitors, and his ears begin to twitch, a sign that the dreaded Sackville-Bagginses are nearby. Frodo helps his uncle hide, where Bilbo lets out an unusual spill, saying that he is selfish and that Frodo is a good lad, a sign of Bilbo's departure. Merry and Pippin light the firework inside the tent, and it explodes in a fury, sending the massive thing into the air with Merry and Pippin's face smoked. Everyone cheers as it explodes but somehow it evolves into a dragon. The crowd races to the ground in a fury as the dragon races overhead, and explodes over the nearby village of Bywater with a sensational applause by the audience. Gandalf catches the two young hobbits in the act and sends them to wash dishes. All the hobbits call for a speech from Bilbo, who eventually agrees. He remarks, 'I don't like half of you half as well as I should like, and I like half of you half as well as you deserve.' This puts the crowd offguard as Bilbo begins to fiddle in his pocket. 'I regret to announce this is the end. I'm going now. And I wish you all a very fond farewell.' He turns to Frodo, saying 'Goodbye' and suddenly vanishes. The crowd is gasped, and Gandalf is not amused.
BACON’S Opinion:
Yet another lovely Shire scene. I love this scene because it sets the tone for the rest of the movie. These are really the last happy moments in the film, and Bilbo's speech at the end transitions the audience into a different, serious mood. In the book, it's the same... but different. It was all a very lighthearted chapter, the same content, but just different. The way it is in the movies is a bit more dramatic.
I'm not sure if anyone has noticed, but the cake caught on fire during filming and it shows as Bilbo gives his speech.
BACON'S RATING: ****/*****
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Post by bacon on Oct 1, 2005 21:35:19 GMT -5
Of course you did.
It's Two Towers.
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Post by bacon on Oct 1, 2005 21:28:12 GMT -5
'Twin' Towers?
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Post by bacon on Sept 20, 2005 21:34:42 GMT -5
It's stuck in my head now.
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Post by bacon on Sept 12, 2005 17:39:44 GMT -5
Funniest thing ever! Download it here. ;D
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Post by bacon on Sept 10, 2005 20:39:24 GMT -5
What's so cool is that it contrasts the end of the movie so drastically that it's kind of depressing.
By the end of the movie, you really yearn to this scene as the 'good ole days', I guess.
That's why I love FOTR.
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Post by bacon on Sept 7, 2005 19:15:53 GMT -5
CHAPTER III: The Shire DISCUSSION: Sept. 7-10, 05 DVD TIME INDEX: 10:34 - 15:38
Synopsis:
A young hobbit is seen reading a book at the base of a tree. Suddenly, he hears the singing of an old man. He jumps up. The old man pulls a cart full of fireworks down an old road, when the young hobbit arrives. "You're late!" "A wizard is never late, Frodo Baggins. Nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to!" There is silence, and they both laugh and hug. Frodo jumps in the cart, and they start a chat about Bilbo and the party. Frodo is worried about Bilbo. This is intercut with a scene with Bilbo where he loses something, obviously very dear to him, as he scrambles to find it. "He's up to something," Frodo says. When Gandalf says nothing, he proclaims that Gandalf is somehow involved in whatever it is. A small bit of exposition comes in where Frodo exclaims that the Baggins where very well loved, until Gandalf came along and whisked Bilbo away to fight a dragon. "Well whatever you did, you've been officially labeled a disturbance of the peace." They pass a hobbit who looks suspiciously at Gandalf. Children run towards Gandalf and cry for fireworks. Gandalf does not turn or make any slight movements. The children are disappointed when suddenly a burst of fireworks entertain the children. Frodo and Gandalf laugh. "Gandalf, I'm glad you're back!" "So am I, dear boy! So am I..." Gandalf rides up towards Bag End, and passes a gate that says, "No admittance except on party business."
BACON’S Opinion:
I LOVE THIS SCENE!
It sets up Hobbiton and the Shire so remarkably well. Frodo and Gandalf have a great father/son relationship from the start! It's just SO light compared to the rest of the movie. The shots in this scene are just breathtaking, particularly one of the final shots where Gandalf rides up to Bag End. I love the line, "A wizard is never late, Frodo Baggins. Nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to!"
The bit with the fat hobbit and his wife is good to and the kids and the fireworks. I just love this scene. It sets up the film beautifully.
I do wonder though. Why did Bilbo replace Gandalf's speech? I thought the original was lovely... Oh, well...
Howard Shore's score is incredible. While I'm not VERY fond on the version of the hobbit theme where it's just... junk, I love the very warmy one (i.e. Gandalf riding up to Bag End). Howard Shore is a genius, as are the writers, Phillipa Boyens, Fran Walsh, and Peter Jackson!
BACON'S RATING: ********/*****
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Post by bacon on Oct 2, 2005 20:47:48 GMT -5
That's a beautiful and melancholy piece.
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Post by bacon on Sept 30, 2005 21:46:20 GMT -5
That's alot of stuff. Is The Road Goes Ever On to the tune of how it was in the movies, or rather did Jackson set the tune of the song to what Tolkien had?
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Post by bacon on Sept 20, 2005 21:32:06 GMT -5
Hmmm... sounds interesting... what's it like?
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